I guess they don’t read each others blog posts.
Over at Post-Darwinist, Denyse O’Leary is quoting Expelled producer Mark Mathis as admitting that he:
…banned pz because I want him to pay to see it. Nothing more.
Nothing about being uninvited, or sneaking in, or gate-crashing, but apparently the right hand of O’Leary didn’t bother to let the left hand of DaveScot know because over on Uncommon Descent DaveScot graces us with yet another round of bleating about Myers and Dawkins being uninvited gate-crashers.
DaveScot: Richard Dawkins and PZ Myers are running around saying they weren’t “gate crashers” at a pre-screening of “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed”. But that’s exactly what they were.
Make up your minds people.
Of course DaveScot goes on at length weaving an intricate delusional fantasy about how Myers and Dawkins were somehow illicitly trespassing at the Expelled screening:
DaveScot: PZ Myers claims he went through the same process to get a reservation for himself and a number of guests as all the other guests by going here
The sticking point is that Myers was never invited. Myers RSVP’d to an invitation he never received. He fooled the host by gaming the invitation/response system employed.
Huh, Dave, it’s a web-page, a public web-page (you can find it by searching Google for “expelled” and “events”). No password protection or anything, in fact you just linked to part of it right there (go ahead everybody click on it) and the invitation is on the parent page which says:
Motive Entertainment is proud to present THE EXPELLED TOUR which launches on November 26th to promote the upcoming release of EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed. Tour locations are being added every day! You and your community are invited to attend FREE of charge! CLICK HERE to RSVP now at a location near you!
The boldface type where it says “you and your community are invited”, is in the original folks. When you follow RSVP link Dave gives you get to a page that says “Welcome. Please choose a location and time below” and then there are links titled “RSVP” next to locations, dates, and times of screenings. And if you click on one of the RSVP links it gives you an online form to fill out asking for your name, address, e-mail, and phone number (this is significant).
DaveScot blathers on:
DaveScot: The host wasn’t checking RSVPs against a list of invitations sent out but rather just assumed that any RSVP received was in response to an invitation sent out.
Now let’s stop and think about this for a second. DaveScot claims (without presenting any evidence) that there were invitations sent out and that the web site is meant to allow those invited to RSVP. But if this is the case then why does the RSVP form ask for your name, address, e-mail, and phone number? Exactly how did the invitees receive their invitations? Telepathy?
DaveScot: One could possibly say this was due to Myers’ ignorance of what RSVP means but he seems to be “As Smart as a 5th Grader” so that’s not a credible excuse. The only other alternative is Myers’ purposely and knowingly deceived the host which of course means Myers is dishonest. THAT is credible.
There is another possibility Dave, that you are making this shit up as you go. Why don’t you go argue with Mathis about this? He seems to have finally told the truth about the incident; he did it because he’s petty.
DaveScot: One might blame how this was allowed to happen on the naivety of the producers in trusting that RSVPs would be received only from invited guests. Honest people don’t tend to think like thieves so it might not have occurred to them that RSVPs would be received under false pretenses. But that still doesn’t excuse Myers’ dishonesty.
Ah, here we go again. Myers is now not just a uninvited, sneaking, skulking gate-crasher, he’s a thieving lier. Soon they’ll be implying that he’s a squid molester (actually P. Z. might cop to that). Btw, where exactly is this mythical telepathic invitation list Dave? You’ll forgive me if I don’t simply take your word for its existence.
DaveScot: Richard Dawkins isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed but even so it’s hard to believe he believed that Myers was an invited guest but the possibility exists that Myers duped him into believing he was a legitimate participant in the pre-screening so I’ll reserve judgement on Dawkins for the nonce in this one case.
You know, having DaveScot impugn the intelligence of Richard Dawkins and pitying him for his supposed gullibility almost mocks itself. Moving on…
DaveScot: The question remains as to why Myers was singled out of a crowd waiting to get in when a more notorious and easily recognized skunk at the garden party (Dawkins) was not.
No it doesn’t Dave, read Denyse’s post.
DaveScot: I’d guess it’s because Myers was vigorously exercising his anti-religious potty mouth loud enough to offend other guests and someone complained while the other members in Myers’ anti-Christ crusader party were exercising a modicum of discretion.
This is really funny to anyone who has ever met P. Z. (and I have) or heard him speak. He might get a bit rowdy in print sometimes but in person he is a fairly quiet and soft spoken gentleman, and there is zero evidence that he was acting otherwise at the theater.
DaveScot: That’s just my working theory and it could be wrong but I wouldn’t bet even money on it being wrong.
No that’s your fantasy, you are wrong, and I’ll take that bet right now.
DaveScot: Too bad Myers doesn’t have the stones to be honest about his indescretions. Real men ‘fess up when caught pulling sophomoric stunts but I guess Myers can’t play it down by saying something whimsical like “Sorry, the devil made me do it.”
No Dave, real men don’t make shit up, imply that others are dishonest and accusing them of wrongdoing in order to try and justify the petty behavior of their own allies.